Wednesday, May 1, 2013

BEST A4V PROCESS?

This is a very interesting A4V process that I’ve found. I’m pretty sure that it’s from Jean Keating, since he used to talk about the memory of the account. I like it best since it uses the lawful money language in the endorsement. Because of that, it’s not just a discharge, like the Doug Riddle and Winston Shrout A4V processes. Those require sending the 1040ES form which makes it a taxable event.

But since in this one you’re redeeming in LM, it’s not discharge but a SETOFF, so it’s quite different. Don’t know if it’ll work, but if it won’t, I don’t think anything else will.

Let’s not forget that corporate US citizens/strawmen AREN’T the creditors of the US gov’t, the American PEOPLE are. And if you’re VOLUNTARILY using FRN’s then you’re the strawman/debtor. But when you demand lawful money, then you’re acting as one of the People, i.e. as the creditor, since legal fictions CAN’T demand lawful money.

So the way I see it, US citizens/strawmen AREN’T entitled to setoff, only American People are, and in order to act as one of the People, you gotta assert your right to real lawful money, by demanding it.


"The United States, a private for profit Federal Corporation, is bankrupt and has to pay our bills
The united states “...is a corporation, a legal fiction that existed well before the Revolutionary War.”
Republica v. Sween, 1 Dallas 43.
United States Code Title 28, Part VI, Chapter 176, Subchapter A, § 3002;
(15) “United States” means, (A) a Federal corporation
1933 March 9, a bank emergency was declared by President Roosevelt because of the insolvency [bankruptcy] of the United States. Executive Order 6073, 6102, 6111, 6260; Senate Report 93-549, pgs. 187 & 594, 1973.
1933 March 9,“The new money (paper promissory notes) is issued to the banks in return for Government obligations, bills of exchange, drafts, notes, trade acceptances, and banker’s acceptances. The new money will be worth 100 cents on the dollar, because it is backed by the credit of the nation. It will represent a mortgage on all the homes and other
property of all the people in the Nation.” Senate Document No. 43, 73rd Congressional Record, 1st Session.
1933 May 1, gold was transferred [stolen] from U. S. Citizens to the United States by Executive Order 6102.
1933 May 23, Congressman, Louis T. McFadden brought formal charges (Congressional Record May 23, 1933 page 4055-4058) against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, The Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not limited to, conspiracy, fraud, unlawful conversion and treason. The petition for Articles of Impeachment was thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee and has yet to be acted on.
1933 June 5, to mitigate McFadden's charges (and prevent being hung for treason), Congress passed House Joint Resolution 192 to provide U. S. Citizens the right to set off all debt obligations as the consideration (something bargained for i.e., an exchange) for the transfer of all the gold and property. It is against Public Policy [applies only to Congress] to pay a debt. Chap. 48, 48 Stat. 112 in the United States Statutes at Large is Public Law [applies to everyone else].

1950 Congress declared "bankruptcy and reorganization". Secretary of Treasury appointed receiver in the bankruptcy. Reorganization Plan, No. 26, 5 U.S.C.A. 903; Public Law 94-564; Legislative History, Pg. 5967.
1973 "Since March 9th, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency (bankruptcy)..." Senate Resolution 9, 93d. Congress, 1st. Session, Foreward. The president signs [renews] this every year.
1977 Oct. 28th, the United States as a "Corporator" and "State" declared insolvency. State banks and most other banks were put under control of the "Governor" (Secretary of the U. S. Treasury) of the "Fund" (I.M.F.). 26 IRC 165 (g)(1); U.C.C. 1-201(23), C.R.S. 39-22-103.5, Westfall vs. Braley, 10 Ohio 188, 75 Am. Dec. 509, Adams vs. Richardson, 337 S.W. 2d. 911; Ward vs. Smith, 7 Wall 447.
1993 March 17th, United States Congressional Record, Vol. 33, page H-1303. Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House: "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U. S. Government.”

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress June 5, 1933 – Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.
The SUBSTANCE of the American citizenry, their real property, wealth, assets and productivity that belongs to them, was pledged by the government and placed at risk as the collateral for US debt, credit, and currency for commerce to function.
Under the 14th amendment and numerous Supreme Court precedents, as well as in equity, private property cannot be taken or pledged for public use without just compensation or due process of law. The United States cannot pledge or risk the property and wealth of its PRIVATE CITIZENS for any government purpose without legally providing them remedy to recover what is due them on their risk. Courts have long ruled that to have one’s property legally held as collateral or surety for a debt, even when one still owns it and still has it, is to DEPRIVE him of it since it is at risk and could be lost for the debt at any time.
The United States Supreme Court said that, the Constitution provides that “private property shall not be taken for public use without just compensation.” United States v. Russell, 13 Wall, 623, 627.
“Sureties compelled to pay debts for their Principal have been deemed entitled to reimbursement, even without a contractual promise… And probably there are few doctrines better established…” Pearlman v. Reliance Ins. Co., 371 U.S. 132, 1962
United States Code Title 31 section 3123 states that the US Government has an obligation to pay 'dollar for dollar' principal and interest in legal tender ALL debts accrued by the American people.

Those backing the nation’s credit and currency cannot recover what is due them by anything drawn on Federal Reserve notes without expanding their risk and obligation to their own selves. Any recovery payments backed by this currency (FRNs or Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Devices; FRAUDs) would only increase the public debt its citizens are collateral for, which an equitable REMEDY was intended to reduce, and in equity would not satisfy anything, for there was no longer actual money of substance to pay anybody. In other words, there is no actual money in circulation by which debt owed from one party to another can actually be repaid. Since 1933 no one has ever really been “paid” because there's been no money of substance. Every time we spend a Federal Reserve note (dollar) we increase the national debt by that same amount. Every time we send our bills to Treasury for the set off we reduce the national debt by that same amount. Federal Reserve Publication “Public Debt, Private Asset” says the national debt is owed to its creditors which is you and me.

We are operating under official Public Policy and Public Law set forth by the UNITED STATES when they confiscated all the lawful money in circulation in 1933 and it became impossible to pay any debts with publicly sanctioned money under the provision of the United States Constitution, Article One, Section ten, Clause one. In return for the confiscation of the lawful money, the UNITED STATES became liable to pay the debts of the people as fiduciary creditors [Trustees] of the people. Since all commercial energy in existence comes from the mental and physical powers of the living people, and not from corporations or government, it is these living people who are the lenders or creditors to all of society.

The government needed to account for how much commercial energy it owed each and every one of us, the ultimate creditors, for our contribution. The creation of the SSN accounts allowed the government to take our commercial energy and use it to keep the nation's economy moving forward in the bankruptcy, while at the same time not being guilty of fraud or theft. They borrowed against [mortgaged] our future energy thereby putting us at risk and they have to reimburse us.
They owe us, and therefore, we have a pre-paid account with the UNITED STATES FEDERAL CORPORATION since we are the creditors and it is the debtor. The SSN is to track our claims against the UNITED STATES and is the record of an invisible ‘trust account’ on the private side which they will never admit to publicly. The CAFR [Comprehensive Annual Financial Report] is the accounting that keeps track of the people's contributions and the earnings on those contributions and is currently estimated at 60 to 100 trillion dollars.

A4V (Accepted for Value) applies when a demand is made for payment with implied consideration. If there is no original wet-inked signed contract where both parties offer consideration, then there is no demand possible, only demand w/ implied consideration which, according to the UCC [Uniform Commercial Code], holds inherent risk to the issuer; if the instrument is accepted as consideration AND returned for value THE ISSUER IS LIABLE FOR THE BILL. That is where the “payment” comes from.
In the bankrupt economy whoever brings a liability has to bring the remedy. Whoever hands you a bill has to hand you the check to payfor it. Write the Accepted for Value verbiage on the statement and/or write a private issue Money Order on the coupon part of the bill and send it to Treasury to have it set off. The only way that utility company got built is that they mortgaged (borrowed against) our property and future labor compensation [only corporations have “income” so they can be taxed], so, everything since 1933 is Pre-Paid. There is no need for us to pay twice!
"All the property of this country now belongs to the state and will be used for the good of the state." FDR, 1933
The gov claims ownership of everything. They hold title to all property (land, homes, cars, etc.). They have mortgaged against our property and against our future labor, but where is the consideration? The only thing left to give back to us is the discharge of all so-called debts.

A true contract has “consideration” from both parties. Consideration occurs when the bank, credit card company, whoever, has actually offered you something and you offered to pay them back. Of course we know the banks, credit card companies, whoever, do NOT actually loan us anything! They use our signature to get funds (our own credit!) from Treasury.
Government cannot have a binding contract on you based on the rule of valuable consideration because everything government has, came from you to begin with. Therefore, no adhesion contract that identifies you as a public employee could be binding upon you. All licenses are adhesion contracts. They assume and presume we volunteer to be a government employee/Trustee and volunteer to be under their jurisdiction. If we take “advantage” of their benefits then they presume correctly, unless we establish our status through public declaration and get them to recognize and acknowledge our status. [see Dennis Craig’s docs]

The fact that they did not loan us anything can be proven with a VOD (Validation of Debt) which they never will, or can, answer to our satisfaction because they cannot show they actually loaned us anything. A copy of the payments you made is NOT validation of a debt “owed”. It does tell you how much to sue them for to get your payments back and add that to the original amount of your credit they borrowed when you took out a car or house “loan.” When they do not answer you by your deadline you default them and present copies of those letters to the court, and collect double or triple damages.
Publicly judges and politicians will not admit to all this because of the chaos they believe will occur, and that we would probably hang them for wasting our lives in meaningless jobs, when they were supposed to be setting off our bills!
When you receive a presentment [a so-called “bill”] in the mail there is a statement part where you can write the A4V verbiage, and a coupon part where you write the money order. There is no set wording, but see my examples below and if you want, change it, adjust it, but make it your own. I no longer think the A4V verbiage is necessary. All they want is the “money.” Know what you are doing! Do NOT stop making the minimum payment until you get a presentment that has credit on it. The birth certificate is your receipt for the contract or trust established with the government by your parents and which you take over when you come of age. You are always the Beneficiary but you also wear the hat of the Trustee when you discharge a debt (just don’t tell the judge that).
I have recently learned that the Trustee has “all the power” but I have not confirmed that. So, in open court (public side) you are Beneficiary, but in judge’s chambers (private side) you are Trustee when you A4V. Or you may simply write a money order on their charging instruments. Unfortunately for them they will not take in as much “money” if they were to warehouse you as freight in their prison. [Jean Keating says he wrote an International Bill of Exchange on a napkin to get out of jail and they gave him a receipt and thanked him]
When they drag you to their private-for-profit court which is just another corporation and where living men and women have NO business being, they assume and presume you are the Trustee who's job it is to shut up and pay the bills with your sweat equity. Establish your position BEFORE going to court by certified mail and when they don't rebut your position [they wont!] send them a default letter thanking them for agreeing with you and send them your fee schedule for being kidnapped (arrested), confined (jail, hand cuffs) drug into court, etc. If they want to fine you, order them to take care of it as your Trustee or you can just A4V and/or money order it.

I do the A4V and money order all in red ink. Most folks do but sign and date in blue ink. Its okay to get a stamp made but you may want to leave room for signature and date. Instead of a signature I just put By: in front of my printed name on the last VA medicine coupon I received and they credited the account. Some say the printed name IS a signature.
Accepted for Value
Exempt from levy
By: sign your name here
Authorized Representative, without prejudice [or without recourse]
October 20, 2011
Exemption ID # 123456789 [SS# without dashes]
Deposit to U. S. Treasury
and charge the same to whoever sent you the bill

Money Order October 20, 2011
Pay to the order of: U. S. Treasury
Pay: Sixty three thousand eight hundred forty nine dollars and twenty one cents, $63,849.21
Charge the sum to Vendor
Credit the memory of my account 123456789 [SS# without dashes]
By: First Middle Last Authorized Signature without prejudice [or without recourse]
Donor, Beneficiary, and Occupant of the Office of Executor/Administrator on behalf of
FIRST MIDDLE LAST 123-45-6789
Void where prohibited by law

Indorse the back;
Special deposit
Redeem in lawful money
By: sign your name here Authorized Signature without prejudice [or without recourse]
Send to:
1.ALL DEBTS NOT IN 2 OR 3
IRS Technical Support Division
C/o Treasury UCC Contract Trust
Internal Revenue Service
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20220
2.IRS DEBTS
IRS Technical Support Division
Internal Revenue Service
Stop 4440
P.O. Box 9036
Ogden, Utah 84201
3.DEBTS WITH LIEN(S)
IRS Technical Support Division
Internal Revenue Service
Criminal Investigation Division
Box 192
Covington, Kentucky 41012
You can also send to;
Department of the Treasury, IRS, Fresno, CA 93888-0102 [where one man has been getting discharge for 6 years. See file]
or
Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigation Division, P.O. Box 510000, San Francisco, CA 94151or
Anna Medlock, DBA Operations Manager, successors or assigns, IRS, Accounts Management, PO Box 149338, Austin, TX 78714
Jack Smith says send it to the CID cause its their job to do the off set.
For years we heard that people had success sending to Anna Medlock (who may be retired) who was head of the set off “division” if there is such a thing.
Make 2 copies of the A4V'd “bill” one to send to the Vendor as a courtesy (maybe they'll do the right thing and do the set off) and one for you to keep. I send the original to Treasury. You may also send a cover letter telling your “employees” what to do, but shouldn't be necessary.
Have a notary send and receive for you as proof of service or you may send it certified or just throw it in the mail. I plan to mail to all of the first three listed above but I've also sent my VA medicine bills only to Fresno and every bill I've received since has a credit on it so I may just send to only one address. My friend Mike had a delinquent $800 AT&T bill he did the A4V and MO on and sent to San Francisco and it does not show up on his credit report. M. Rasheed had the Treasury discharge a $63K student loan."
http://sovereignwarriors.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=6194679%3ATopic%3A204225&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

12 comments:

  1. when a4v'd do you send the presentment to the three addresses or do you choose one of the addresses listed

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  2. just pick one.
    this is awesome simply breakdown. thanks buddy

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    1. Hi Spencer. Just a few questions for you. In your experience with this process, how long does it take from the time the IRS receives the presentment to the time of discharge/settlement? How many successes have you had with this process? And also, is there a specific way to fill out the mailing envelope for the Sender part? ex. Non Domestic process or just regular? Haven't seen anything in the multiple videos and websites I've visited about that small detail. Thanks!

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  3. Do i detach the coupon or leave it attached

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  4. My husband and I want to discharge our mortgage can anybody assist with how I can use A4V to do it and where do We send it? Also do both of us need to sign it considering we are both on the so called mortgage loan. I would really love to speak with someone that has done this process to make sure we don't miss anything and do it properly.

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  5. There's confusion if one is in Australia, as Aust is reg'd on the NY Stock Exchange. Therefore, to whom do we deliver the A4V .. the US Fed Treasury or the Aust Fed Treasury?
    Also have seen where the Payee is NOT the account sender, but rather, it's the Treasurer.
    Would welcome your thoughts on these points.
    Many thx.

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  10. No thanks I have all the information and have read a lot of great content in other sites as well, I was just wondering if anyone has had any success with the A4V process because, as of today I have submitted bills for set off and nothing has happened, I lost my condo waiting on the A4V to process. Sent to various addresses with no results....

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