Sunday, December 16, 2012

ONLINE CONVERSATION BETWEEN SOVERN AND A LAWYER ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF SIGNING A LICENCE WITH "WITHOUT PREJUDICE UCC 1-308"

Have been looking at the issue of UCC 1-308 as a potential addition to the 'drivers licence' and other contracts with other government agencies. To that end I found this quirky conversation between a "sovern" punter and a lawyer on one of these paid 'ask a lawyer' business' that you occasionally find on line -or at least I do. 

"I attempted to obtain a new drivers license to day in the state.

CUSTOMER: I attempted to obtain a new drivers license to day in the state of hawaii. I informed them that my reason for the new license was address and signature changes. They had no problems with the address change however when I signed my name "Daniel Yarnell Without Prejudice UCC 1-308" They stated they would not allow it as my signature is only my name as it appears on my "license." What is the Legal definition of a Signature according to Hawaii Law

LAWYER: hi well, if you do not have a legal court order showing your name changed to "Daniel Yarnell Without Prejudice UCC 1-308" from the previous driver's license then the DMV is correct. that is not your legal name and they need your legal signature to reflect your legal name. if you want to sign a legal document with the name of "Daniel Yarnell Without Prejudice UCC 1-308" then you need to seek a Name Change. or, if this is your legal name then present your birth certificate reflecting the same.
CUSTOMER: Why would it not be allowed as part of my signature seeing as it is similar to signing a paper "under Duress" which i have had to do for several military documents?
LAWYER: hi because a legal signature is required, and as such, that would be the name on your legal brith certificate. can only tell you why they will not accept the signature and what to do if this is how you wish to sign legal documents.
the section of the UCC that you refer to in your signature is not applicable to legal government documents - it is there as a provision for someone who enters into a contract that is also governed by the UCC
§ 1-102. Scope of Article.
This article applies to a transaction to the extent that it is governed by another article of [the Uniform Commercial Code]. therefore, if obtaining a driver's license is governed by the UCC, i would appreciate seeing that section.
CUSTOMER: That is basically my point I am being forced to obtain a licese even though it doesn't
apply to me under the UCC as a sovern individual. Seeing as I have no SSN and the Birth Certificate was a document setting me up as a Coperation rather than an individual without my consent. I do have the freedom of travel as afforded to me under the constitution but that is another battle for May of this year. I guess right now the system the way it is screws people out of their God given birth right to force them to serve as surfs to an Illegitamate Government. Ok Thank you.
LAWYER: hi i understand that. i really do. but we have to deal with the laws until they are changed. if you think being a rebel in this manner is going to get those laws changed, God Bless you. but until then, if you want a driver's license you will need to sign your legal name or take the US Government to Court.  Sam40204.1336760069
Read more: I attempted to obtain a new drivers license to day in the state - JustAnswer http://www.justanswer.com/law/3281e-attempted-obtain-new-drivers-license-day-state.html#ixzz2FGQGHhYH


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